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Michael Rossetti, an assistant professor
of English language, some translation at the University of Olga.
He told me he thought of visiting
professor at the College of Rochester, New York.
He has published articles on translation
dealing with them on translation and is the author of three monographs.
He is a member of many national and international scientific associations
like the Italian Association of Studies and the American
Studies Association of Italy.
His research interests include translation of studies,
discourse, analysis, dealing with them on lexical something.
So welcome at the party here. Thank you.
Thank you for the presentation,
and thanks for inviting me here to this wonderful conference.
It's so
in this paper, I'm going to present
some exercises I'm
doing with my students at the university.
They are students, so they are second year
students of English language and translation.
And so this is that this work is still in progress.
But it's very interesting because,
first of all, the aim of this of this work
is to what it is to have students that work with translations
of idioms and specific expressions that use that.
In the famous TV series titled The Sex and the City.
So first of all, we all know that Sex in the City
is considered one of the most popular American TV series,
and it is that famous for the language used by the actors.
And the language is often characterized by swear words,
vulgar expressions, and the protagonists for women
whose romantic intrigues are described are depicted
in the upper class atmosphere of Manhattan in New York. So
first of all,
it is that what is interesting about this
TV series is the use of the language in different situations
and the dialects employed by different characters
like, for example, specific phrases or idioms of phraseology and so on.
So DNA and aims, the aims of this paper of the self.
My work is are, first of all, to analyze
the idioms and expressions from our lingua cultural perspective.
And so compare the Italian to the American lingua culture
in our cultures, and also the use of idioms
and expressions in an educational context,
and also it is
that it is interesting to analyze the students
approaches to the translation of culture, violent expressions
which are linked to in the TV series,
especially when it comes to camp talk and other and other dialects. But
I am also
needed to underline that the and the the episodes
I have chosen to analyze the language and the phraseology
and idioms are from the from the final season
and from season number six of the of the TV series.
So, so starting from the and also in other
starting from the theoretical approaches,
I have considered the definition of critical points
and the critical points are,
to quote those points that require interpretation and the intervention
from the translator and also locations in discourse.
So where major cultural differences are signal.
So together with my students.
So we have pointed out, we have pinpointed actually
specific units of translations that are can be considered
such as critical points.
So now starting from the analysis of one of the first
the episodes, whose title is that to market to market. So
this episode represents an
ethnic sample of a metaphor for pragmatic meaning.
It refers to the protagonist's
everyday lives and to their romantic relationships.
So this episode in particular is that sense
in at the New York Stock Exchange.
So it has a financial setting, it is related with business
and it compares business and financial life.
But we dating with the romantic life
and now and this is here
on the slide that this is a quotation from from Carrie.
Carrie is that one of the four female protagonists who
writes a diary at the end of the day,
she writes a diary and she writes.
Have even with psychosomatic.
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Two persons.
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Okay, fine.
So I was
quoting carries, carries thoughts
from her diary.
She sighs.
She writes that later that day I got to thinking about the stock
market and dating are the really that they are really that defined.
So if you have a bad stock, you can lose your shirts.
If you have a bad date, that you can lose your will to live.
And if the date is good, the stakes get even higher.
After weathering all the ups and downs
that you could one day find yourself with nothing.
So when it comes to finance and dating, I couldn't help but wonder
why do we keep investing so only
the students have analyzed
this, this quotation, and they have also
done an exercise which is illustrated in this table
that they had that reason man decides that the business related words
and that these are some of the definitions they have given for
a number of business related words.
So, for example, stock, according to some of the students, says it's
the stock is a part of your heart that you have sold
to your future soulmate or the investment.
Is that the time you spent with a soulmate or stake
is what you expect to gain
from your soulmate after investing in human hunter,
and the verb to market means to look for the perfect soulmate.
And finance
is the activity of betting on and investing in someone you love.
You are in love with.
You have also emphasized that this connection between the world
of finance and Fianceé, owing to this and alliterative connection that
I have also elicited from students
other words connected with business and finance.
So they had suggested such words as bonds, bears,
bulls, go up, go down to increase or decrease.
So the expanded they are a vocabulary
related to finance and business
and they have also
worked with the dictionary and subject and of funds
and they have become familiar with the other expressions
that related to money and finance.
Like, for example, with money you can buy a house, but not a
but not a home.
But with money you can buy a clock, but not time.
With money,
you can buy a bed to but not sleep or to spend money like water.
Time is money rolling in money and and so and so on.
So and anyway,
they're moving on to another episode. So
we have
analyzed the episode titled the The Perfect Presents
because sex and the City presents the associations that some episode
presents, the associations that between the romantic relationships
and English grammar, like, like this one in the episode
titled The Perfect Present to capture the protagonist that is not at ease
when she when she spends time with a boyfriend
and when her boyfriend mentions that he's ex-girlfriend. So.
So this generates a conflicting relationship
between the past and present in the protagonist's life.
And so she writes in her diary
the following false quotes
I got to thinking about
tense relationships, and by that I mean our relationship
and its connection to the past, the present and future.
At a certain age, we've all had relationships
that are far from perfect.
But how much does that past relationship
affect our dream of a future Perfect.
And as I became more and more tense, I couldn't help but wonder,
can you get to a future if your past that is the present?
So in this short stream of thoughts,
the protagonist analyzes
of the romantic relationships by evoking some of the magical times,
sees and by playing with their denominations that I'm perfect in.
This process of recent activation
undergoes conversion and so perfect
as we know what means utmost, it means correct as an adjective.
But that
it also represents a tense as a noun.
And in this context,
Kerry uses that I'm perfect So with get pragmatic overtone
and she implicitly conjures up it's
objective the meaning of to mean and correct.
So she refers to the perfection she looks for she she longs for.
And so the students have analyzed that the translation
of this quotation into into italics
and now I'm going to to to go over to
to to read the back translation of the source text,
which reads which which reads like this At a certain age,
everyone happened to have relationships that come from the past.
But to what extent can such stories destroy our dreams for the future?
And being entangled in my thoughts, I couldn't help wondering
can one reach
the future if the past is still present?
So in
the Italian, the Italian translation,
the Italian translation lessens the function of the noun.
Perfect.
So as a post modifier and the word perfect is not translated
into the into the target language because the translator focuses
on the semantic value expressed by the tenses, past and future.
So the Italian translator has avoided the translation
of the two component tenses past perfect and future perfect,
and has forgotten to the time by overtones
and erasing that for the perception of A.D.
and posteriori on the part of the target reader.
So the source text that projects
both the interiority and reality into respectively the past
and the future, highlighting the sense of perfection. And
so that
students that have elicited the pragmatic function
of the source text and that they
were aware that this function was lost
in the target text because the latter aims to simplify
the body to know that the original message
and in other interesting translation
that is in the episodes that titled the Lights
camera relationship
which starts that we we the protagonist
who goes that to drop down to the Prada shop
with her boyfriend burger and so here the the dialog
the translation of the of the of the dialog
at the beginning of this episode highlights
also a different cultural a different culture.
And in fact the shop assistant police Italian welcome scene a one way
Carrie and her boyfriend and
and he kisses that twice on the cheek so not only Carrie but also burger
which is something which is considered which is weird
from an American perspective, cultural point of view
and so a burger reacts inside the okay to bonus round.
I'm done with that.
So so the Italian translation that has been expanded like this
whole the little kiss or even two kisses
there's a special offer here at products
warehouse that the Italian subtitle translation
that sounds like this how Kate twice and extra those
that's okay so it has been that we use them so in the
okay these three Marquette is
one of the many critical points also in the TV series because it
highlights a different culture and the translator expands.
So the sentence in the Italian translation
to convey the cultural differences.
So between the source language and the target language
and actually the non phrase okay,
is expanded by adding the words for the little case.
Some which provide to the target audience
that we end up with a clear meaning while the translation of bonus, while
I'm done with that is expanded by merging the non face
and the verb face with the addition of the dynamic expression,
which is that here at Protestant, I'm
okay and maybe a half have some more time.
But to another important to another interesting aspect in this
and in this TV series is that the analysis of that camp talk,
which is an aspect that my students are not familiar
with, that we are planning to work on these aspects as well.
First of all, with the definition of camp talk
and that with the features that with the characteristics of camp talk
as an expression, a way I mean, it is a language
of the typical language used by the gay characters
in this TV series.
And, and so the meaning that references that to
to the sexual sphere, references that to genitals or this way of words
are frequent in a camp talk so you can talk.
It is
for this reason very interesting, especially from
from the perspective of translation because because in the indeed
the Italian translation of Camp Talker is
I mean, it changes the overtones and the references
that to as way of words or to genitals or other other features.
And in particular what, what, what that decreases and what changes.
The camp talk to is of the Italian subtitle translation
without the Italian translation
is quite faithful to the source text.
The Italian subtitle translation tends to
omit or to omit any references that
to any kinds of swear words or vulgar expressions that
there's just one short
quotation from one of the gay characters
in these TV series that who is trying to encourage her find that Charlotte.
So one of the four protagonists who has just broken up
with her boyfriend boyfriends and so he sighs to Charlotte I'm
going to read just a couple of lines
so it quotes and it is better because you are knock
knock, knocking on said guild door and nobody loves us, said Gayle.
So everybody, Italian dub translation That sounds like this.
You are becoming a reader, bitter old maid
and nobody wants to a wider Peter old maid while the
subtitle translation That sounds like you are becoming
a lonely and set girl.
So the subtitle subtitled Translation of the subtitle translation tends to
and is softer and omits
references that to offend, you know, to
yes to and convenient to expressions sort words. So
now going towards the
conclusion, there's another aspect
I'm going to analyze with we,
we we the students and it consists in the translation of the titles
of the titles of the final season of Sex and the City.
So this table shows
that some of the titles of some episodes,
some in their translation into into Italian now
the translation of the titles
into Italian reveals
a very interesting feature
from a lingua cultural point of view and
for example, the title to Market to Markets
has been translated as love upwards.
So it refers to a new to new
adventure, romantic adventures in the life of the of the protagonists
or lights camera relationship that has been translated as that ruling.
We met them okay so we who are being who are successful
in their professional lives unlike their boyfriends
who are failing or out of the frying
pan them which which refers to
going from bad to worse
and in Italian has been translated as a the harsh reality.
And so if we consider the
the message conveyed by these titles and it is interesting to notice
that the Italian translation uses a domesticating approach
and it is more explicit in comparison with the with that we did
with the English subtitles, the English titles are in place
and they do not actually reveal much about the
the message or the actual message of the contained in each episode.
Whereas the Italian translations of these titles
and makes a reference to
to to what is going on in each episode.
For example, out of the frying pan.
Okay.
And as the English title out of the frying pan, it is just a medium, okay?
And it means it means going from bad to worse.
But the Italian translation, the hot, the harsh
reality refers to Samantha, one of the four characters
who discovers she has cancer.
So and the target translation.
So these titles are more explicit, domesticating
or use the domesticating approach or maybe the egg factor
that these these title A stands for Disgusting or something like that.
So as be translated as those of who go up and those who go down that to me.
So it refers to some of the people that in the
in the in the in the episodes whose life is going well and others
that people other characters in the in the in that these episodes
whose life is that these who are having problems
so so once again that these titles are further examples
of critical points as a quote those points
and at those points and lexical features that in the text
that interest are most susceptible to and value manipulation.
So the manipulation and the different approach
to the translation of these title can really change
the cultural message of of that of each title.
So that's why these titles in particular
can be considered examples of critical points.
And these are points that most frequently show a shift,
some quick to quote quotes in translation
and those that generate the most interpretive
and evaluated potential that those that may be most
revealing of the translators bodies, end of quote.
So the analysis of these titles in the approach
to the translation of this title, the manipulation
also of the semantic message of the title is a good perspective,
a good point to analyze, analyze the what the the features
of these of these of the language used in that section of the city.
So and I'm probably the conclusion
to conclude, I mean to
use the phraseology in these in these
TV series in a teaching activity I'm doing it
I'm still in progress and it's interesting to analyze.
So the different approaches
to the translation of the idioms, the expressions
and for the dubbed version and the subtitled version,
and in other important analysis
is the the slang is about the slang of the use of slang and can talk
as the elements of the connection and disconnections
the between to a lingua cultural of contexts
of the American legal culture and Italian lingua culture.
So I thank you for your attention and thank you.
This is an exclusive.
Is so much
now you have any question
comments.
Or yeah thank you
for this
I don't know if you know
that maybe you say that the.
Students. Parents hold their
phones reception but they have to.
Take this.
Interesting to triangulate the data
that you want to give them so much you know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, we are.
And what I'm going to use
is the use of of the corpus,
like the
corpus, the British National Corpus
and also the coca card, the contemporary
American corpus of contemporary
American English to let students find out the,
the use the iconic use of specific expressions and idioms.
So that is, that's another step.
But I'm going to to to adopt with the students so the use of of these
corpora that coke and the corpus of British English
but especially the coca to to find out the use of specific collocations
or combinations of words or words that debt can help students
to not only to improve their process of language learning,
but it can also help students that to
to find out
specific data or to to obtain
specific data on the on the frequency of use
of specific expressions in this in this TV series.
So that is something I'm also and considering I don't know if I
somehow was pertinent to your question, but
yes, it's it's still in progress
and that's something interesting I'm going to analyze.
Yes. Yeah.
Thank you.
And maybe I have a question for the for the colleague. Yes.
Because that you were old.
So I wanted to ask you that this question before.
But I have a you also mentioned the use, obviously,
of word symbol, expressions and the translation.
Okay.
So what was in European
the the reason why
I mean, what is the reason why such this where the vocabulary
is not
actually is is changed or manipulated in the target language?
Because in my case, in the case that I have analyzed here,
there are I mean, while in the
in the recent past the Italian
the translation of can talk,
was it almost totally filtered to okay or censored.
There are many films like Rocketman or other films
in which cannot talk to any Italian.
These are totally manipulated for
religious cultural reasons.
Over the last few years we have noticed an improvement
in the rendering can capital in the target language in Italian.
And even though there are still many examples
like this one, like the ones I was mentioned
in which the subtitled version that is still filtered
and manipulated to what also the double version is quite faithful.
So what about your case of the case you were analyzing.
Say that it's also the case
that normally the version is more specific,
more specifically regional,
but in the last times we have seen that
lately
that this is not the case anymore.
So the subtitles are increasingly
giving out,
not manipulating version of the original language.
And I think it's my opinion that the expression that they use
in each case to give some context is what we see in Spain in that case.
But in my opinion, what I have been able to study
in the English version from the from the German, in this case, it's
more always the same trying to say the same words from this.
But in Spanish
they more variable
related to some
group of persons expressions.
And in the last time I said to you, I can see
the subtitles are more suitable to me, which would be the word.
All Thanks.
Thanks.
Any other question or comment?
Oh, I would like to thank you for your presentation.
It's been great to hear about all these cases
because I know the case sector has a deep wave of Spanish
translation, but I need to know about the Italian one.
So thank you so much. Thank you So.